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		<title>By: What the fuck? Are Developers of Facebook client libraries for ASP.NET stupid? &#124;&#124; Dmytro Shteflyuk&#8217;s Home</title>
		<link>http://www.marketing-ninja.com/asp-net/why-im-switching-to-facebooknet-from-the-facebook-developers-toolit/comment-page-1/#comment-1518</link>
		<dc:creator>What the fuck? Are Developers of Facebook client libraries for ASP.NET stupid? &#124;&#124; Dmytro Shteflyuk&#8217;s Home</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 19:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Of course, it started working perfectly. I have posted a bug to the tracker and decided to look at the Facebook.NET, a better and much cleaner implementation according to AjaxNinja. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jeff Mowatt</title>
		<link>http://www.marketing-ninja.com/asp-net/why-im-switching-to-facebooknet-from-the-facebook-developers-toolit/comment-page-1/#comment-1311</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Mowatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 19:46:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, then I remove the welcome.htm from the callback url and get this:

Firefox has detected that the server is redirecting the request for this address in a way that will never complete.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, then I remove the welcome.htm from the callback url and get this:</p>
<p>Firefox has detected that the server is redirecting the request for this address in a way that will never complete.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Mowatt</title>
		<link>http://www.marketing-ninja.com/asp-net/why-im-switching-to-facebooknet-from-the-facebook-developers-toolit/comment-page-1/#comment-1309</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Mowatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 12:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, I did but seem to have left some spaces in the key by copying and pasting. Also forgot to specify the channel in the callback url.

Now I&#039;ve set this to localhost:3569/fbnet/welcome.htm and that&#039;s the page I&#039;m seeing.

If this is the starting point for my app, that&#039;s fine. I was expecting to open a default.aspx file on a .net type application. Perhaps another error....

Jeff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, I did but seem to have left some spaces in the key by copying and pasting. Also forgot to specify the channel in the callback url.</p>
<p>Now I&#8217;ve set this to localhost:3569/fbnet/welcome.htm and that&#8217;s the page I&#8217;m seeing.</p>
<p>If this is the starting point for my app, that&#8217;s fine. I was expecting to open a default.aspx file on a .net type application. Perhaps another error&#8230;.</p>
<p>Jeff</p>
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		<title>By: Aaronontheweb</title>
		<link>http://www.marketing-ninja.com/asp-net/why-im-switching-to-facebooknet-from-the-facebook-developers-toolit/comment-page-1/#comment-1286</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaronontheweb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 00:38:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you supply the correct API key and SECRET in the Web.config file? It looks like you&#039;re getting an authorization error from the Facebook REST servers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you supply the correct API key and SECRET in the Web.config file? It looks like you&#8217;re getting an authorization error from the Facebook REST servers.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Mowatt</title>
		<link>http://www.marketing-ninja.com/asp-net/why-im-switching-to-facebooknet-from-the-facebook-developers-toolit/comment-page-1/#comment-1273</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Mowatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 07:45:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aaron, This is how far I get without writing any code. Just using the facebooknet template which now seems unchanged with or without the enabalextarnalBrowsing property: 

Server Error: 501 Not Implemented
Operating System Error Nr:6: errno = 0x6

No RPM for this combination of URL and method

/fbnet</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aaron, This is how far I get without writing any code. Just using the facebooknet template which now seems unchanged with or without the enabalextarnalBrowsing property: </p>
<p>Server Error: 501 Not Implemented<br />
Operating System Error Nr:6: errno = 0&#215;6</p>
<p>No RPM for this combination of URL and method</p>
<p>/fbnet</p>
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		<title>By: Aaronontheweb</title>
		<link>http://www.marketing-ninja.com/asp-net/why-im-switching-to-facebooknet-from-the-facebook-developers-toolit/comment-page-1/#comment-1263</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaronontheweb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 22:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me know how it goes

If you want me to gloss over your code or if you want to email me, feel free to shoot me an email at

jiive[dot]aaron[at]gmail[dot]com

Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me know how it goes</p>
<p>If you want me to gloss over your code or if you want to email me, feel free to shoot me an email at</p>
<p>jiive[dot]aaron[at]gmail[dot]com</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Mowatt</title>
		<link>http://www.marketing-ninja.com/asp-net/why-im-switching-to-facebooknet-from-the-facebook-developers-toolit/comment-page-1/#comment-1262</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Mowatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 22:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HI Aaron, 

I&#039;d tried both. I&#039;ll try that setting and have a fresh look at it tomorrow.

Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HI Aaron, </p>
<p>I&#8217;d tried both. I&#8217;ll try that setting and have a fresh look at it tomorrow.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaronontheweb</title>
		<link>http://www.marketing-ninja.com/asp-net/why-im-switching-to-facebooknet-from-the-facebook-developers-toolit/comment-page-1/#comment-1261</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaronontheweb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 21:57:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Jeff,

Sorry it took me so long to get back to your comment! Are you trying to authenticate your requests through your web browser (i.e. are you connecting directly to 123.123.123.123:3179/facebooknet) or are you making the requests through the Facebook.com proxy (http://apps.facebook.com/APPNAME/)? Facebook.NET won&#039;t authenticate you unless you direct your traffic through Facebook, simply because Facebook.NET needs access to the Facebook session data which is created at the proxy.

There is an option you can enable on the &lt;fb:Application&gt; control called &quot;enableExternalBrowsing&quot; you can set this to true then give that a try if you&#039;d like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Jeff,</p>
<p>Sorry it took me so long to get back to your comment! Are you trying to authenticate your requests through your web browser (i.e. are you connecting directly to 123.123.123.123:3179/facebooknet) or are you making the requests through the Facebook.com proxy (<a href="http://apps.facebook.com/APPNAME/)?" rel="nofollow">http://apps.facebook.com/APPNAME/)?</a> Facebook.NET won&#8217;t authenticate you unless you direct your traffic through Facebook, simply because Facebook.NET needs access to the Facebook session data which is created at the proxy.</p>
<p>There is an option you can enable on the &lt;fb:Application&gt; control called &#8220;enableExternalBrowsing&#8221; you can set this to true then give that a try if you&#8217;d like.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Mowatt</title>
		<link>http://www.marketing-ninja.com/asp-net/why-im-switching-to-facebooknet-from-the-facebook-developers-toolit/comment-page-1/#comment-987</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Mowatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 15:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Aaron,

I meant having seen a video transcript elsewhere of a facebook app being created, the Asp.net toolkit list in VWD 2005 contained some controls under a Facebook heading in the list.  So I took it that to appear in this list the binary files had to be unzipped to a particular location.

Anyway, as I don&#039;t need the Toolkit I tried Facebooknet but find myself stuck. All seems set up correctly with my callback url set to my workstation 123.123.123.123:3179/facebooknet for example but it fails to connect every time. I switch off the firewall in case that causes the problem but no change.

I try it also on my server which I know is configured for asp.net 2.0 because I&#039;m running Dotnetnuke on it, but the server response indicates an error, suggesting that the web.config settings are changed to create an error log file.

Jeff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Aaron,</p>
<p>I meant having seen a video transcript elsewhere of a facebook app being created, the Asp.net toolkit list in VWD 2005 contained some controls under a Facebook heading in the list.  So I took it that to appear in this list the binary files had to be unzipped to a particular location.</p>
<p>Anyway, as I don&#8217;t need the Toolkit I tried Facebooknet but find myself stuck. All seems set up correctly with my callback url set to my workstation 123.123.123.123:3179/facebooknet for example but it fails to connect every time. I switch off the firewall in case that causes the problem but no change.</p>
<p>I try it also on my server which I know is configured for asp.net 2.0 because I&#8217;m running Dotnetnuke on it, but the server response indicates an error, suggesting that the web.config settings are changed to create an error log file.</p>
<p>Jeff</p>
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		<title>By: Aaronontheweb</title>
		<link>http://www.marketing-ninja.com/asp-net/why-im-switching-to-facebooknet-from-the-facebook-developers-toolit/comment-page-1/#comment-985</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaronontheweb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 13:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Jef,

If you want to use Facebook.NET you do not need to download the Developer&#039;s Toolkit. The Developer&#039;s Toolkit is a separate interface for designing Facebook applications with ASP.NET. I&#039;m afraid, however, that I do not entirely understand your post. No Facebook-related tools in your toolkit? What do you mean?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Jef,</p>
<p>If you want to use Facebook.NET you do not need to download the Developer&#8217;s Toolkit. The Developer&#8217;s Toolkit is a separate interface for designing Facebook applications with ASP.NET. I&#8217;m afraid, however, that I do not entirely understand your post. No Facebook-related tools in your toolkit? What do you mean?</p>
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		<title>By: Jef</title>
		<link>http://www.marketing-ninja.com/asp-net/why-im-switching-to-facebooknet-from-the-facebook-developers-toolit/comment-page-1/#comment-965</link>
		<dc:creator>Jef</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2007 18:10:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say this has left me confused as to whether I need to downlaod the developers toolkit or not. I&#039;ve done it, but there&#039;s no instruction afaics as to where the source and binaries need to be extracted hence no Facebook related tools in my toolkit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say this has left me confused as to whether I need to downlaod the developers toolkit or not. I&#8217;ve done it, but there&#8217;s no instruction afaics as to where the source and binaries need to be extracted hence no Facebook related tools in my toolkit.</p>
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		<title>By: 5 Facebook.NET Development Tips</title>
		<link>http://www.marketing-ninja.com/asp-net/why-im-switching-to-facebooknet-from-the-facebook-developers-toolit/comment-page-1/#comment-745</link>
		<dc:creator>5 Facebook.NET Development Tips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 19:45:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.ajaxninja.com/?p=131#comment-745</guid>
		<description>[...] It&#8217;s about time for an update on Facebook Application with ASP.NET, using Nikhil Kothari&#8217;s Facebook API wrapper for ASP.NET, Facebook.NET. If you want to read about why I&#8217;m using Facebook.NET instead of the Facebook Control Toolkit then click here. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] It&#8217;s about time for an update on Facebook Application with ASP.NET, using Nikhil Kothari&#8217;s Facebook API wrapper for ASP.NET, Facebook.NET. If you want to read about why I&#8217;m using Facebook.NET instead of the Facebook Control Toolkit then click here. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: 10 Hot ASP.NET Tips and Tricks - 10/28/2007</title>
		<link>http://www.marketing-ninja.com/asp-net/why-im-switching-to-facebooknet-from-the-facebook-developers-toolit/comment-page-1/#comment-704</link>
		<dc:creator>10 Hot ASP.NET Tips and Tricks - 10/28/2007</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 12:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] article as a resource for my Facebook application development (Master Pages are VERY helpful for Facebook.NET applications.) What I like about it is the section towards the end where it covers how to access [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] article as a resource for my Facebook application development (Master Pages are VERY helpful for Facebook.NET applications.) What I like about it is the section towards the end where it covers how to access [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Daily Grind 1229 at aoortic! dot com</title>
		<link>http://www.marketing-ninja.com/asp-net/why-im-switching-to-facebooknet-from-the-facebook-developers-toolit/comment-page-1/#comment-511</link>
		<dc:creator>The Daily Grind 1229 at aoortic! dot com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 02:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Why Im switching to Facebook.NET from the Facebook Developers Toolkit - I didn&#8217;t even know there were two ways to hook up .NET apps to Facebook. (via  DotNetKicks) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Why Im switching to Facebook.NET from the Facebook Developers Toolkit &#8211; I didn&#8217;t even know there were two ways to hook up .NET apps to Facebook. (via  DotNetKicks) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: 10 Hot ASP.NET Tips - 9/17/2007</title>
		<link>http://www.marketing-ninja.com/asp-net/why-im-switching-to-facebooknet-from-the-facebook-developers-toolit/comment-page-1/#comment-491</link>
		<dc:creator>10 Hot ASP.NET Tips - 9/17/2007</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 03:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.ajaxninja.com/?p=131#comment-491</guid>
		<description>[...] Silverlight 1.0 with C# - Photo Carousel (Part 1) - Nikhil Kothari, the same ASP.NET developer who brought us Facebook.NET, has a great Silverlight 1.0 code sample up. I haven&#8217;t had a chance to play around with [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Silverlight 1.0 with C# &#8211; Photo Carousel (Part 1) &#8211; Nikhil Kothari, the same ASP.NET developer who brought us Facebook.NET, has a great Silverlight 1.0 code sample up. I haven&#8217;t had a chance to play around with [...]</p>
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		<title>By: A Much Better Approach to Facebook Application Monetization</title>
		<link>http://www.marketing-ninja.com/asp-net/why-im-switching-to-facebooknet-from-the-facebook-developers-toolit/comment-page-1/#comment-274</link>
		<dc:creator>A Much Better Approach to Facebook Application Monetization</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 18:25:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] word of thanks to Gary Gil of Podclass, Woody Pewitt of Microsoft (who gave a great presentation on Facebook.NET), Alex Shah of FaceDouble, Ryan Denny of BYU, David Levine of the Harvard Business School, Rodney [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] word of thanks to Gary Gil of Podclass, Woody Pewitt of Microsoft (who gave a great presentation on Facebook.NET), Alex Shah of FaceDouble, Ryan Denny of BYU, David Levine of the Harvard Business School, Rodney [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Aaronontheweb</title>
		<link>http://www.marketing-ninja.com/asp-net/why-im-switching-to-facebooknet-from-the-facebook-developers-toolit/comment-page-1/#comment-200</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaronontheweb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:41:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s no problem Nikhil, that&#039;s what blogs comments are for!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s no problem Nikhil, that&#8217;s what blogs comments are for!</p>
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		<title>By: Nikhil Kothari</title>
		<link>http://www.marketing-ninja.com/asp-net/why-im-switching-to-facebooknet-from-the-facebook-developers-toolit/comment-page-1/#comment-199</link>
		<dc:creator>Nikhil Kothari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:29:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Razman, not sure if you&#039;ve looked at everything inside the Facebook.NET package - but if you do, you should see Facebook.Desktop.dll - it has the ability for client apps to show a login dialog to create a Facebook client session, and then you&#039;re off and able to use all the APIs... or you can use an infinite session as well, if you have one and don&#039;t want the user to login.

If you don&#039;t see it, and have questions I&#039;d recommend using the discussion forum on CodePlex rather than simply letting your questions/thoughts go unanswered/unaddressed.

Aaronontheweb, sorry for using your comments form for this, but I just thought I&#039;d take the opportunity to point Razman to whats there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Razman, not sure if you&#8217;ve looked at everything inside the Facebook.NET package &#8211; but if you do, you should see Facebook.Desktop.dll &#8211; it has the ability for client apps to show a login dialog to create a Facebook client session, and then you&#8217;re off and able to use all the APIs&#8230; or you can use an infinite session as well, if you have one and don&#8217;t want the user to login.</p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t see it, and have questions I&#8217;d recommend using the discussion forum on CodePlex rather than simply letting your questions/thoughts go unanswered/unaddressed.</p>
<p>Aaronontheweb, sorry for using your comments form for this, but I just thought I&#8217;d take the opportunity to point Razman to whats there.</p>
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		<title>By: Razman</title>
		<link>http://www.marketing-ninja.com/asp-net/why-im-switching-to-facebooknet-from-the-facebook-developers-toolit/comment-page-1/#comment-197</link>
		<dc:creator>Razman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:12:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only issue I have with Facebook.NET is that the application has to be either a FBML or Iframe application running within facebook. I can&#039;t figure how to create a stand-alone app that just authenticates. The facebook toolkit seems to be designed for stand-alone apps first then integrated apps second.

I&#039;d switch if Facebook.NET had a stand-alone option. I think I saw a comment that it&#039;s in the works :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only issue I have with Facebook.NET is that the application has to be either a FBML or Iframe application running within facebook. I can&#8217;t figure how to create a stand-alone app that just authenticates. The facebook toolkit seems to be designed for stand-alone apps first then integrated apps second.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d switch if Facebook.NET had a stand-alone option. I think I saw a comment that it&#8217;s in the works <img src='http://www.marketing-ninja.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Aaronontheweb</title>
		<link>http://www.marketing-ninja.com/asp-net/why-im-switching-to-facebooknet-from-the-facebook-developers-toolit/comment-page-1/#comment-191</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaronontheweb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 21:29:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah I think the basic problem with the Facebook Developer Toolkit is the fact that it&#039;s just too rigid. Facebook.NET is very flexible and I think this will ultimately prove to be a better approach to .NET-driven facebook applications given that the platform will likely be subject to changes down the road, especially the FBML syntax.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah I think the basic problem with the Facebook Developer Toolkit is the fact that it&#8217;s just too rigid. Facebook.NET is very flexible and I think this will ultimately prove to be a better approach to .NET-driven facebook applications given that the platform will likely be subject to changes down the road, especially the FBML syntax.</p>
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